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BPC and 'retraction' using SAP delivered IBP virtual providers

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I am about to implement a planning solution with BPC 10.1 for NW on an embedded BI. I have done plenty of implementations with BPS/IP and know a fair bit about retraction with those technologies.

Since SAP delivers the IBP content I figured I ought to try using it instead of inventing the wheel anew.


After having captured the planning data within BPC business users now expect to see it in the ERP tables.

 

Hence, I am trying the following set-up using the SAP delivered virtual provider /ERP/COOM_V06 as target and my own cube as source containing the plan data:

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In the FOX the data is written to the virtual provider (at this point only dummy data):

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The trace claims that one record was generated (which is expected):

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By clicking 'Save Planning Buffer' the data is saved to the DB:

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So WHERE is the data saved to???

 

In the definition of the virtual provider it is not possible to find what table (and client) the data is written to. It invokes CL_FCOM_IP_IPROV_WRITABLE, but debugging it does not really help.


Are stored procedures invoked? If yes, where is it possible to see which ones?

 

SAP has delivered all these IBP functionalities that could serve as templates for own implementations, but it seems as if there is a distinct lack of documentation on how they can be used.

 

 

Thanks for any help/clarification.


Re: BPC and 'retraction' using SAP delivered IBP virtual providers

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Hi, for instance for CC planing data is stored in COSP_BAK

Aggregate value through on the fly calculation from BSEG table.

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Hi Experts,

 

I am a new bird in SAP SFIN. I am going through different SFIN blog posts and documents and getting confused on some of the points. It would be really thankful to you if you would clear my below doubts.

 

How the system will calculate the aggregate values on the fly in BSEG table as the materialized aggregate tables have been already obsoleted in SAP SFIN?

 

Materialized view (BSIS,BSAS,BSIK,BSAK etc.) and Materialized aggregate(GLT0,FAGLFLEXT etc.) are now obsolete in SFIN but still exist with compatibility view. what does it mean?

 

Appreciate your early feedback.

 

Regards,

Mohammed Kalim

Re: Aggregate value through on the fly calculation from BSEG table.

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Hey Mohammed,

Please refer one of the existing thread where this issue was discussed:-

http://scn.sap.com/thread/3775286

 

About your query, the idea of having aggregates and index was for faster reporting.

But with Hana you can have aggregates very quickly,

 

So all the old tables ( as mentioned by you) are replaced by view, which will not have data footprint and will collate data on the Fly when referred.

 

Hope this helps,

Please close the thread.

Regards,

Rishab

Re: BPC and 'retraction' using SAP delivered IBP virtual providers

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Thanks Aleksey. As soons as I have access to the system I will check it.

 

Is there any way to know that /ERP/COOM_V06 writes the data to COSP_BAK without posting messages on SCN or trial-and-error? Is it dokumented somewhere or is there a table where this can be seen or some other mean to gain this knowledge?

Re: BPC and 'retraction' using SAP delivered IBP virtual providers

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Hi,

I can only advice to investigate function which is responsible for retraction data. Unfortunately I didn't encounter such documentation yet.

Re: Aggregate value through on the fly calculation from BSEG table.

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Hi Rishab,

 

Thanks again for your quick reply. Above thread cleared my some doubts, but I am still have one doubt regarding the calculation of aggregate value on the fly in BSEG with HANA.

 

Please could you clear me "what is on the fly" calculation.

 

Regards,

Mohammed Kalim

Re: BPC and 'retraction' using SAP delivered IBP virtual providers

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Thanks Aleksey but which function "is responsible for retraction data" ???


Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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I find the cause of the above error.

 

Before we executed migration from ECC 6.0 to simple finance 2.0, Table finsc_ledger didn’t exist.

After migrating, Table finsc_ledger was  newly created .

 

Before and After activating Funds Management(PSM-FM), tablefinsc_ledger have “FI” as application value(APPL) and “GLF” as sub application value (SUBAPPL).

 

But, After activating Funds Management(PSM-FM), system need the data with “FI” as application value(APPL) and“PSM” as sub application value (SUBAPPL) form table finsc_ledger.

How can I maintain table finsc_ledger

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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Hey Big Choi,

Please go to this node to maintain FINSC_Ledger

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In this you assign your company code to the ledger which you want to use

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Hope this helps, Please close this thread.

Regards

Rishab

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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Hi..

Before activating Funds Management(PSM-FM), we can see the leading ledger  as the below picture.

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Afrere activating Funds Management(PSM-FM), we cannot see the leading ledger  as the below picture.

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Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

What version of S/4HANA Simple Finance without Simple Logistics (SLOG)

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Hi,

 

 

i don't know if this is the right place for this question, but here goes:

 

 

we have a SAP ECC 6.07 on netweaver 7.4 system that runs on HANA.(So this is Business Suite power by HANA)

The customer wants the system be upgraded / updated to S/4HANA Simple Finance on the latest level ,but without Simple Logistics because of a current configuration with SRM.

 

As far as I see it , it is not possible to go to S/4HANA SFin 1503 SP03 (1511) without Simple Logistics , but it is not clear if this is really the case.

I read through several notes, guides and faqs but what I assume now is that simple logistics (it isn't called that anymore according to some notes) is part of S/4HANA Core and / or Enterprise Management. And with that when you implement Simple Finance you get Simple Logistics with it in version 1511.

But.... I don't know if that is correct.

 

 

So the options I see now for our system is the following:

 

Implement 1503- SP02 (1508) , which stays on netweaver 7.4.
You don't have Slog and you can implement Simple Finance 1503.

On the downside : We don't have the latest version , we don't have the 1511 apps (HANA and Fiori) which the customer wants to have.

 

 

 

Implement 1503 - SP03 (1511) , which needs netweaver 7.5.
You can implement the latest Sfin 1503(1511) version ,BUT you also get Slog ... So you have the latest version and the latest 1511 apps, but you also have Slog which makes the SRM config unworkable.

 

 

Both are not what the customer demands.

 

Can someone point us in the right direction on this matter.

 

(We already asked our national SAP office,but they can't seem to give us a clear answer.... so far as simple goes..)

 

 

thanks!

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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You know the wrong information that PSM-FM is not supported with S/4 HANA Finance.

Refer to the below sentence.

Components that have been build with FI-SL technology like Joint Venture Accounting, Public Sector etc. are untouched and work as be fore.

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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Hey Big Choi,

I think your interpretation of sentence is wrong,

From my understanding it means that PSM-FM approach to Special Purpose ledger and S/4 Finance Universal ledger wont work together.

So SAP in all its release note and documents mentions that JVA, PSM-FM , Lease Accounting wont work with S/4 Finance.

You basically need to choose one of them.

 

I suggest you can raise this with SAP support and they will also give the response.

It kinda sucks having got the product BOM and licenses and this restriction puts one back to drawing board.

 

Do let us know of the response.

Regards

Rishab


Re: What version of S/4HANA Simple Finance without Simple Logistics (SLOG)

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Hello Technish Beheer,

A very interesting question and your perspective have pretty much answered the question.

If I may add some bit more and if you see the list of simplifications done in 1511 version:-

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1) There are a lot of simplification in term of DB ( mainly around Asset and ML) side in 1511,

2) In the Apps, I see some of asset related apps being made available as compared to  1508

3) New features in treasury and few other features

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3) There are some features support in BS on HANA are being removed-Invoice & GR reconciliation

4) ML activation becomes mandatory and so does S/4 Logistics

 

So the question really is the apps and changes in S/4 HANA 1511 so important that a whole set of system component ( SCM) be moved out and have n number of interfaces.

 

Do let us know your path taken

Regards

Rishab

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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Thank you for your reply.

 

I think that the meaning of the sentence “Components that have been build with FI-SL technology like Joint Venture Accounting, Public Sector etc.

are untouched and work as before.”  is that the data related to public sector are stored in old table, not ACDOCA as before.

 

I think that funds Management(PSM-FM) should be activated and used for BCS as before in case of simple finance 2.0 (on-premise edition 1503).

 

I will report the error to SAP.

Re: Error message “FAGL_LEDGER_CUST023”(Define a leading ledger)

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Sure Big Choi, Keep us posted and let us know how you are able to make both work together.

Regards

Rishab

Re: New Asset Accounting in SAP Simple Finance 2.0

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Hi Aruna,

 

Please check if business functions EA-FIN and FIN_AA_PARALLEL_VAL are activated in your system

Re: New Asset Accounting in SAP Simple Finance 2.0

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Hi,

not different,

may be you have no any documents

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